Asked at the first presidential debate whether he believes that there is “a separate but unequal system of justice for Blacks in this country,” Biden responds: “Yes, there is. There’s systemic injustice in this country, in education and work and in law enforcement and the way in which it’s enforced.” He notes that “the vast majority of police officers are good, decent, honorable men and women,” but calls for “bad apples” to be held accountable. Biden goes on to mention George Floyd and Breonna Taylor – both of whom were killed by police, noting that good cops “aren’t happy” to see what happened to both of them. He does not address distinct realities for women and men within and across racially marginalized communities. In the same segment, Wallace asks Trump why his administration ended racial sensitivity training in federal agencies and if he believes that there is systemic racism in the country. Trump responds: “I ended it because it’s racist. …That it was a radical revolution that was taking place in our military, in our schools, all over the place. …They were teaching people to hate our country. And I’m not going to allow that to happen.” Biden interjects, “He’s the racist,” about Trump.